EVE - The 'great war' written from an 'Outside' perspective

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Re: EVE - The 'great war' written from an 'Outside' perspective

Postby jezcentral on Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:58 am

It's about time you got back to us, Hardin! :)

What happened? Last I heard, the counter-attack by AAA has allowed KenZoku to free up their assets, and the GoonSwarm were losing their focus. This is a bit of a turnaround! (At least, it's a turnaround from what I was last hearing of the War.)
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Re: EVE - The 'great war' written from an 'Outside' perspective

Postby Hardin on Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:55 am

BoB/KenZoku had a couple of CTA 'Call to Arms' with a focus on POS spamming strategy. While initially they made good headway the counter attack by Goons and its coalition partners quickly reversed KenZoku's gains. It was clear that Goons and Co were not going to let Kenny resestablish a foothold in its former territory and that they were bashing their head against a wall...

Also the post by SirMolle (KenZoku leader) about the pull out seems to indicate some tension with Against All Authorities (-A-). There was speculation that -A- were only backing BoB/KenZoku's attack on Querious and its hold on 49-UGC as a buffer against Goons. (49-UGC borders Catch - a -A- region) and it is possible that KenZoku wised up to this - especially when -A- gangs were off roaming other regions (such as Providence - where I live) when Goons and co were rollbacking KenZoku attacks in Querious...

Although it is obviously biaised the Mittani TenTonHammer post linked off my blog explains it better...
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Re: EVE - The 'great war' written from an 'Outside' perspective

Postby jezcentral on Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:37 pm

I read the first one which was good, but the second seemed a bit vague about what exactly went wrong for KenZoku, who just seem to have run out of steam by the end. It all got a bit "Day number whatever, crushed their towers".
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Re: EVE - The 'great war' written from an 'Outside' perspective

Postby Hardin on Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:40 am

Don't know if anyone caught this last night:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/anot ... od#2924948

Most of it was about WoW/Second Life/Korean games/Chinese Gold farmers - but last 15 minutes or so were about EVE Online.

Had no idea that I appeared in this so have to admit it was mouth on floor time when the EVE CSM bit came up...
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Re: EVE - The 'great war' written from an 'Outside' perspective

Postby grokker on Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:16 pm

Was pretty good I thought. Less Second Life would have been nice so they could have had more time to explore more interesting stuff. But sex sells I guess and they felt that a guy who makes virtual sex furniture was worth more screen time a deeper exploration of the nature of community, law, morality and governance in online spaces.
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Re: EVE - The 'great war' written from an 'Outside' perspective

Postby grokker on Mon Aug 10, 2009 12:51 pm

Proof, if ever it was needed, that history is written by the victor. http://www.sesfanqulahmemorial.com/hist.html
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Re: EVE - The 'great war' written from an 'Outside' perspective

Postby jezcentral on Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:15 pm

grokker wrote:Proof, if ever it was needed, that history is written by the victor.


Yup. And in an unreadable font. :shock:
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Re: EVE - The 'great war' written from an 'Outside' perspective

Postby grokker on Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:31 am

Here's what may be the final twist in the long running fight for Delve region in the Great War. Having achieved their victory over BoB/Kenzoku and secured Delve for themselves, Goonswarm had barely finished settling in to their new home region when a fail cascade of epic proportions began. Karttoon, the CEO of GoonFleet, was away on his honeymoon. He was one of only 3 people with access to the section of the Goons' alliance wallet containing the money required to pay for upkeep of all their sovereignty claiming structures. The other two were also away at the critical moment when payment was due at the end of January, and so Goonswarm lost their sovereignty.

Much wailing and gnashing of teeth ensued as Goons enemies pounced on their now vulnerable systems. Thanks to the recent changes in how sovereignty works (no more POS warfare) these critical systems fell quickly without sovereign control. Goon's spymaster, The Mittani (who had overseen the defection of BoB director Haargoth and the alliance's subsequent disbanding) then addressed his alliance, sounding their retreat from Delve. This was planned as an orderly, organised withdrawal with a focus on saving as much of the alliance's assets as possible; confidence was high.

Until 6am yesterday morning, that is. Events are still a little unclear but what's known is that over 100 corporations were expelled from the alliance. This led directly to the loss of a supercarrier as Goon enemies, Cry Havoc, guessed the change would leave capital ships from expelled corps without the protection of Goonswarm starbases. The finger of blame has been pointed at Karttoon with some suggesting it was in response to calls for his resignation, and also alleging he went on to steal anywhere between 300 billion to a trillion isk from alliance coffers.

Whatever happenend history seems to have repeated itself and a second powerhouse alliance in control of Delve has fallen apart spectacularly. people are going to start thinking that place is cursed :)

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Re: EVE - The 'great war' written from an 'Outside' perspective

Postby jezcentral on Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:18 am

Oh Hardin, come back to us!

Ans why did they want his resignation? He (and Mittani) were the ones who gave them Delve.
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Re: EVE - The 'great war' written from an 'Outside' perspective

Postby grokker on Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:46 pm

I've put some thought to this question of why Karttoon's resignation in particular seemed so important. I've come to the conclusion that Emo Rage on a massive scale must be the reason, as pretty much anyone with a semi permanent footing in the real world would consider getting married and being on your honeymoon a pretty good reason for putting the concerns of a computer game behind you for a few days, especially when you have two deputies who can see to the important things like paying the bills while you're away.

But then I'm not a Goon, and so am not party to the strange and machiavellian ways their brains work :roll:
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Re: EVE - The 'great war' written from an 'Outside' perspective

Postby mrclueless on Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:40 pm

If i had any idea what you were taking about i would probably agree :|
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Re: EVE - The 'great war' written from an 'Outside' perspective

Postby jezcentral on Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:18 am

I would love to see BoB/Kenzo fly back in and retake Delve. :lol:
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